PDA

View Full Version : The CIA, the biggest terrorist organization on Earth



Ferre
11-01-2010, 06:22 AM
The CIA, the biggest terrorist organization on Earth (http://wfol.tv/editorial/3378-the-cia-the-biggest-terrorist-organization-on-earth.html)


An estimate by researchers put the number of people killed as a result of CIA covert operations to 6 million. Dozens of Presidents and Prime Ministers as well as ministers, religious leaders and revolutionary activists were also the target of the CIA.

For Americans who wonder why there are so many people on this earth pissed off at the USA, here's he answer.

:sqconfused:

Zap
11-01-2010, 09:39 AM
I wonder how they'd feel about their own President being targetted by assassination squads.

Something tells me, a few of them would enjoy that idea.

Ferre
11-01-2010, 11:12 AM
Fact is that most people outside the USA have knowledge about those CIA practises for years already, specially in the Arab world and in South America and have been wondering for as many years why the American people are too bloody ignorant, cowardly, or whatever reason they have for allowiing their own government to keep up killing people all over the world and meddling in their local politics.

Most people in this world also find it ironic to say the least when they hear Americans talk about how great their country is and how lucky the rest of the world is with them "spreading peace and democracy", one has to be a real ignorant fool to believe such crap.

Myself, I'm angered every time I get reminded about the American foreign politics, whether it is their war on drugs, war on terristss, or any other of their wars on peace, people and humanity which all those wars in reality are, if there's something I hate it are hypocrites.

I grew up with the notion that wherever there's a dictatorship or people massively dying in useless wars you can bet it is supported by the US of Assholes.

:sqmad:

Zap
11-01-2010, 11:18 AM
I think it's not foremost in the thoughts of most Americans because the effects of it are not felt by them.
Outside of the odd terrorist attack or threat, most Americans live their lives without giving much thought to the activities of the CIA.
But the war machine is a heavy drain on GDP which will eventually catch up with them and then it will begin to affect their daily lives.
That's when they'll feel the sting.
Hopefully, at that point, it won't be too late to do something about it.

Ferre
11-01-2010, 11:21 AM
Americans drive their SUV's and watch their tv over the dead bodies of millions of people.

And they simply don't give a damn.

Zap
11-01-2010, 11:25 AM
Americans drive their SUV's and watch their tv over the dead bodies of millions of people.

And they simply don't give a damn.

I'm sure some of them do, Dude, but probably feel powerless to put a stop to it.
Don't forget the fear factor too.
Living under the current regime must be a lot like living in Germany in the early thirties.
Keep your mouth shut or you be gone.

Ferre
11-01-2010, 11:32 AM
Bro, this has not been going on since the current, or the last regime, it has been standard American policies for as long as I remember and I'm fifty years old.

And on that "feeling helpless to do something about it", I call hogwash on that, go to any international forum you like and look for topic on American foreign policies and their wars, you will always find them defending their government.

Those idiots are so damn "proud to be American" it makes me puke knowing what their government is really doing in this world for the past decades.

"Proud to be American", for me translates into: proud to be an asshole making this world a hell for everyone else.

Ferre
11-01-2010, 11:35 AM
Having said that, on an individual basis I know many really good people with an American passport, most of the living in Amsterdam because they are just as sick of their own government as the rest of the world.

One of my best friends, John Sinclair, moved out there for the same reason after being an activist against that crap for most of his life, but those people get fed up at a certain point because at the end of the day they do not get support from their own people.

Zap
11-01-2010, 11:41 AM
Bro, this has not been going on since the current, or the last regime, it has been standard American policies for as long as I remember and I'm fifty years old.
The CIA bullshit has, for sure.
But this feeling of not being able to speak out about it is a new one.
Since 9/11 and the serious erosion of basic freedoms in the US, I've sensed people on some forums are a lot more careful about what they say when being critical of the US government.
It's pretty scary.

Hell... There was one thread I remember at the other place that had Americans saying things like "I'm not saying it should happen, but if the US government were overthrown..." and "Let's be really clear that we're just talking about the what ifs here and nobody is plotting against the government" and other statements just like it. The fear was very palpable.

When you have your people that scared, a revolt is unlikely unless things get really bad.

pctec
11-01-2010, 06:30 PM
Now you know why I keep a low profile and shut my mouth!
I will not become a target too... LOL

Muddy
11-01-2010, 11:50 PM
Now you know why I keep a low profile and shut my mouth!
I will not become a target too... LOL

So you admit that you think they ARE targeting people eh? Then you smear this seditious rubbish all over creation, er...evolution with a click of your treasonous, backstabbing finger! Your heretical ways will soon cease when the long arm of that which is honest and true reaches out and hooks you by a nostril and drags you out of your cozy den of heinous subversion! Don't even think you can hide, or run! It wouldn't matter if you tried to move to Cana...wait. You're IN Canada. Shit. Never mind.

pctec
12-01-2010, 05:50 AM
Ive said too much already... now where did I put my time machine...

Atom
13-01-2010, 10:35 AM
Ferre, last time you started whining about this I asked you for suggestions on what I should do but you had none as I recall. Got any now?

Ferre
13-01-2010, 12:47 PM
Ferre, last time you started whining about this I asked you for suggestions on what I should do but you had none as I recall. Got any now?

I think writing your congressman/woman to inform him/her that the actions of the CIA world wide do not make you feel safe because of the many enemies they create for America is one of the only things an American civilian can do about it, which is not much if there are only the occasional letter coming in at those congress-people's offices. In those cases only numbers have real influence.

For us ordinary people it is always the smartest thing to spread the word amongst friends and relatives in order to at least spread the awareness.

Another option is to become President and put an end to it yourself. But the last one who wanted to change (amongst other things) the way the CIA works was a guy who we know as J.F. Kennedy. So I discourage my friends to go that route for the same reason I discourage my friends to eat GM foods, it is just too unhealthy.

Atom
13-01-2010, 01:31 PM
I think writing your congressman/woman to inform him/her that the actions of the CIA world wide do not make you feel safe because of the many enemies they create for America is one of the only things an American civilian can do about it, which is not much if there are only the occasional letter coming in at those congress-people's offices. In those cases only numbers have real influence.

For us ordinary people it is always the smartest thing to spread the word amongst friends and relatives in order to at least spread the awareness.

Another option is to become President and put an end to it yourself. But the last one who wanted to change (amongst other things) the way the CIA works was a guy who we know as J.F. Kennedy. So I discourage my friends to go that route for the same reason I discourage my friends to eat GM foods, it is just too unhealthy.Ok, thanks, Ferre.

I wonder if it's acceptable to write my congressman and complain even though I do not vote in political elections.

Ferre
13-01-2010, 02:26 PM
It is your right to write them and complain regardless whether you vote or not brother, in fact in my opinion people who do not vote do not give their voice away to a political representative and thus have even more right to complain and write those people to tell them your opinion.

people who vote per definition choose to give their own opinion away to a "representative" who will have an opinion for them - I call those sheeple, and you are definitely not one of them.

:sqwink:

Atom
13-01-2010, 10:19 PM
I think you're right, and I think probably that I being a nonvoter actually should have an even stronger conviction to complain than a voter. I probably won't though.

Damo
14-01-2010, 06:39 AM
my baby sister is currently in London on 2 years work visa, she once said:

FYI...outside the US Embassy is not a good place to get lost and stand around looking confused with a map.

After walking back and forth a few times, I was asked to move on by security....something was on there, cars and security whereallover the place, more then normal

that was last week...

Zap
14-01-2010, 08:35 AM
my baby sister is currently in London on 2 years work visa, she once said:
How old are you, dude? :sqwink:

Atom
15-01-2010, 08:58 AM
I will guess him at 28 y/o.

Atom
15-01-2010, 10:10 AM
Jeezus, don't tell me I got it right, I may have to start worshiping myself. lol
Just a wild guess really.

pctec
15-01-2010, 05:58 PM
Self worship? Maybe you can found a new religion and not pay taxes based on religious freedom... just a thought...

Atom
16-01-2010, 01:18 AM
Good thinking, Tim.

Ferre
16-01-2010, 05:48 AM
Read this; Most astonishing is that Europe became an area for the CIA's actionsŁ - RT Top Stories (http://rt.com/Top_News/2010-01-13/cia-agents-europe-chiesa.html?fullstory)

The CIA used Blackwater to kidnap and even assassinate alleged "enemies of the USA" in Germany.

Reminds me of operation Gladio, back in the days the CIA was involved in bombings (terrorism) in Italy and "the communists" were blamed for those attacks, one of those attacks was the bombing of a school bus, you know; blow up children to show how evil those communists are, works wonders with public opinion.

This was done because the socialist movement was gaining a little bit too much popularity in fascist Italy in the opinion of the US of Assholes and they decided that the best way to curve this was to give those damn commies a bad rep.

Operation Gladio: CIA Network of "Stay Behind" Secret Armies (http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9556)
http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=16921
Operation Gladio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio)

Ferre
16-01-2010, 10:58 AM
hehhe, those American CIA/FBI agents have no scruples whatsoever.

I just read in a Dutch newspaper that while faking a picture that is supposed to be a "recent picture of Bin Laden" they photoshopped an actual picture they found from a Spanish politician.

Again they are caught red handed faking "Bin laden coverage", apparently it is very important for them to keep the Bin Laden myth alive.

Read that Dutch article here, you don't need to read or speak Dutch, there are pictures that speak for themselves;

FBI blundert met 'Spaanse' Osama - Buitenland - Telegraaf.nl [24 uur actueel, ook mobiel] [buitenland] (http://www.telegraaf.nl/buitenland/5806836/__FBI_blundert_met__Spaanse__Osama__.html)

Remember those fake video with Bin Laden's "confession" to 9/11? Same bullshit.

See, this is why Europeans do not trust anything coming from the US of Assholes, Europeans hate it to be lied to.

This article is in Holland's largest newspaper, very mainstream, but I doubt that American media like Faux and the like will mention this.

Here's that picture, on the left is the Spanish politician Gaspar Llamazares

http://images2-telegraaf.nl/multimedia/archive/00688/binladen3_688629i.jpg

Bunch of lying bastards :sqmad:

Muddy
16-01-2010, 11:03 AM
Read the last paragraph here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaspar_Llamazares). Wouldn't Llamazares have some legal recourse?

Muddy
16-01-2010, 11:05 AM
Here's the original article (http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2010/01/16/espana/1263644667.html).

Atom
16-01-2010, 01:02 PM
(...)I just read in a Dutch newspaper that while faking a picture that is supposed to be a "recent picture of Bin Laden" they photoshopped an actual picture they found from a Spanish politician. (...)The way it was presented on the PBS News Hour last night was that the image without the turban was an artist's depiction of what he may look like currently, as opposed to the younger pic of him that they showed along side it.

Atom
16-01-2010, 01:19 PM
The younger pic that they were using seemed to be the standard BL photo with turban and a bit darker hair.

Atom
16-01-2010, 01:42 PM
I don't know, I'd have to view the segment again to be sure that the photo had darker hair, but what I am sure about is that the side by side comparison was intended to depict what he "may look like now".

Atom
16-01-2010, 01:48 PM
Judy Woodruff did the segment.