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Ferre
29-06-2010, 04:52 AM
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Zap
29-06-2010, 09:52 AM
I can't listen to the audio right now, but I'll comment later, after I've heard it.

Strong
29-06-2010, 12:54 PM
Over in the UK you get a back hander and whacked with a truncheon for giving lip to a policeman in a line like that. Then the film gets released to the media, and the police apologise and an enquiry takes place. The policeman goes to court and is clear of all wrong doing.

Heck the get away with murder over hear. Well manslaughter I guess.

Atom
29-06-2010, 02:00 PM
I wonder if the police really do that, recruit fake demonstrators. That's really bad.

Ferre
29-06-2010, 02:51 PM
It has become standard procedure for at least the last few decades already Atom.

Here a few articles...

- The Toronto G20 Riot Fraud: Undercover Police engaged in Purposeful Provocation (http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=19928)
- G20: Police Agent Provocateurs Again? A Police State in Action (http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=19957)
- G20 Riots: Is the Black Bloc a Police Psyops Group? (http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=19940)
- G20 Police State: Toronto is burning! Or is it? (http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=19939)

Zap
29-06-2010, 05:04 PM
First of all, the Black Bloc didn't help matters by participating in violent acts throughout the city.
They put a stain of all of the peaceful protesters.
Secondly, my provincial government secretly enacted (without a vote in Parliament) a law that allowed the police broad sweeping powers to arrest anyone they wanted for (basically) any reason. Because of that and power tripping police, that's basically what happened.

I'm ashamed of my leaders and angrier than hell about what happened.

There will apparently be a public inquiry into what happened if the opposition leaders have their way.
I hope it takes place and I hope that 1930s law is removed from the books.
As the guy in the video said... We don't have freedom of speech if it can be removed on a whim for whatever the government deems "special circumstances".

Atom
29-06-2010, 08:46 PM
It has become standard procedure for at least the last few decades already Atom.

Here a few articles...

- The Toronto G20 Riot Fraud: Undercover Police engaged in Purposeful Provocation (http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=19928)
- G20: Police Agent Provocateurs Again? A Police State in Action (http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=19957)
- G20 Riots: Is the Black Bloc a Police Psyops Group? (http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=19940)
- G20 Police State: Toronto is burning! Or is it? (http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=19939)I see. Well thanks for the links, Ferre. I just got done watching The Spy Factory on PBS, that was rather depressing, maybe I'll check out those links after a nice cup of coffee.

Atom
29-06-2010, 09:59 PM
Wow, that is completely wild, and I only read the first article. Something doesn't seem right. How could the deceivers possibly be so stupid as to wear the same shoes as the police? I really don't get it. Doesn't a mistake like that strike you as too dumb to be true? I wonder what's really going on there.

Ferre
30-06-2010, 05:24 PM
Here's more completely wild stuff, WTF is wrong with this world? I thought we were living in a western civilized democratic system?! It is obviously broken.

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Atom
30-06-2010, 10:45 PM
Well then, maybe the cops are that dumb.

Atom
30-06-2010, 11:17 PM
"But chief, no one told us not to wear our police boots."
You damned idiots! It's back to the desk jobs for the lot of you!

Atom
30-06-2010, 11:22 PM
I don't know, it just doesn't make sense.

Atom
30-06-2010, 11:37 PM
Here's more completely wild stuff, WTF is wrong with this world? I thought we were living in a western civilized democratic system?! It is obviously broken.

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Yes I'd certainly say so, not sure what's going on there, it seems the cops got pissed when the crowd reached a certain point, like some geographical line was crossed.

DarleneO
01-07-2010, 07:51 AM
Well.. I hope the leaders thought all of the chaos they caused was worth it! Listening to the young ladies interview made me feel horrible for her..not what you would expect here.

Zap
01-07-2010, 09:09 AM
There is a Facebook group for Canadians who demand a public inquiry into these events.
If you know any Canadians who aren't members of BTWIMHO, please forward this information and link on to them...

Incompatible Browser | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=135629036463012)

Zap
01-07-2010, 09:35 AM
http://www.btwimho.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1313&stc=1&d=1277994726

http://www.btwimho.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1314&stc=1&d=1277994940

Zap
01-07-2010, 10:25 AM
You know it's gotten bad when Canada is in need of human rights advice from Iran! :sqerr:

Iran slams Canada human rights abuse
(http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=132565&sectionid=351020101)

Brian
01-07-2010, 10:41 AM
Canada definitely fucked up at the G20 but the advice from Iran can't get past my bullshit detector. :sqlaugh:

Zap
01-07-2010, 11:11 AM
Some accounts, including testimony from a 50+ year old couple who were threatened with violence by the Toronto police and they wiped his iPhone of all information before giving it back to him...

G20Inquiry.org (http://www.g20inquiry.org/stories.html)

Zap
01-07-2010, 11:15 AM
Canada definitely fucked up at the G20 but the advice from Iran can't get past my bullshit detector. :sqlaugh:

The advice is sound, regardless of who it comes from.
I am shocked, appalled, angered and ashamed of the actions of my "leaders" and the police throughout this.

I have never, in my entire life, felt the need to attend a protest in person.
I've always been content to write people in positions of power or get them on the phone if possible and voice my concerns that way.
I'll be at my first protest on July 17th to demand a full public inquiry into what took place in Toronto last weekend and why.

Brian
01-07-2010, 11:20 AM
The advice is sound, regardless of who it comes from.



Oh I agree that Iran is correct. I just doubt that their intentions are worthy.

Ferre
01-07-2010, 11:35 AM
Yeah right, as if the intentions of all those countries that oppose Iran are any better. :sqlaugh:

Brian
01-07-2010, 11:43 AM
Yeah right, as if the intentions of all those countries that oppose Iran are any better. :sqlaugh:

Never claimed they were :sqwink: I just find it oddly funny that Iran is criticizing a country for human rights abuses considering how they handled the Green Revolution in 2009/10 :3confused:

Atom
01-07-2010, 12:02 PM
(...)I just find it oddly funny that Iran is criticizing a country for human rights abuses (...)Same here. In fact I could hardly believe my eyes when I read post #17. Iran is so far in the dark ages that it's really not funny.

Atom
01-07-2010, 12:11 PM
The godamn women are afraid to even speak for fuck's sake.

Strong
01-07-2010, 12:38 PM
Are we talking about the same Iran? :sqconfused:

Brian
01-07-2010, 12:41 PM
:lol:

Atom
01-07-2010, 12:46 PM
Are we talking about the same Iran? :sqconfused: (...)

Why hell no wonder I thought they were afraid to say anything, they make them wear the living room drapes over their mouths. That's actually pretty good thinking, they can talk all they want as long as no one can understand them.

Ferre
01-07-2010, 12:49 PM
Never claimed they were :sqwink: I just find it oddly funny that Iran is criticizing a country for human rights abuses considering how they handled the Green Revolution in 2009/10 :3confused:

That "green revolution" was a foreign plot to try and get an American-friendly regime in place. "Colored revolutions" are the trademark of the CIA since quite a long while. They did it in former Russian countries and in many more, sometimes with success, other times, like in Iran, with not-so-much success, despite the dramatically staged murder of a student.

Brian
01-07-2010, 12:50 PM
:lol:

Brian
01-07-2010, 01:24 PM
Some photos of the riots on this guys blog (http://ryandury.com/G20-Summit-2010-Toronto.php).

Halo
01-07-2010, 08:59 PM
Some accounts, including testimony from a 50+ year old couple who were threatened with violence by the Toronto police and they wiped his iPhone of all information before giving it back to him...

G20Inquiry.org (http://www.g20inquiry.org/stories.html)

Link (http://www.g20inquiry.org/several-police-officers-lining-the-west-side-of-the-street-had-removed-their-names-and-badge-numbers/)

On Friday afternoon, June 25, in the main Gender Justice march, as we all were stopped by police on University Avenue at Elm St., I noticed that several police officers lining the west side of the street had removed their names and badge numbers. I asked for their names and badge numbers and why they had removed them. They maintained stoney silence. Another officer next to them did have his name and number displayed, so I thanked him for his honesty and asked why the others had removed theirs; he said he did not know.

Sounds like the cops wanted it all to kick off. :3mad:

Halo
27-07-2010, 05:47 AM
Booked for bubbles!!
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Zap
27-07-2010, 07:27 AM
People got arrested for the stupidest shit, Halo.
The Black Bloc guys who torched a police car, never got arrested and had police as their audience.
Police stood by and watched the whole thing.
But other folks were arrested for sitting and singing O' Canada! WTF?!?!?

I am ashamed at what took place.

Ferre
27-07-2010, 12:04 PM
This is the best reaction to that overpowered intimidating game ever...

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Halo
29-07-2010, 05:54 PM
Booked for bubbles!!
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More bubbles:

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Halo
02-08-2010, 11:33 PM
Even more bubbles.
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Ferre
03-08-2010, 04:15 AM
People got arrested for the stupidest shit, Halo.
The Black Bloc guys who torched a police car, never got arrested and had police as their audience.
Police stood by and watched the whole thing.
But other folks were arrested for sitting and singing O' Canada! WTF?!?!?

I am ashamed at what took place.

The "Black bloc guys" are most probably agent-provocatives employed by the government, this is becoming standard procedure when there are protests nowadays. This provides the pretext to arrest the real protesters for no reason whatsoever and governments can say that protesters are "violent".

Halo
01-09-2010, 02:20 AM
Another vid of police corruption.
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First of a series from freeman Menard.

Halo
04-09-2010, 11:35 AM
Amazing what those in power can get away with. They're supposed to work for the good of the people. What's gone wrong?
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Halo
09-09-2010, 02:16 PM
2 months after the G20 a man with mental issues is still in jail. The man whose father describes him as having paranoid schizophrenia,

CBC News - Toronto - G20 crossbow detainee languishes in jail (http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2010/08/22/g20-mccullough-crossbow-jail.html)

One of the police in the pic looks like officer Bubbles.

Strong
10-09-2010, 05:51 AM
I think in most countries if they claim you are insane they can pretty much lock you up and throw away the keys.

Arob
14-09-2010, 07:45 PM
What are we going to do about it?
Who do we have to petition to get an inquiry?

Zap
14-09-2010, 08:45 PM
What are we going to do about it?
Who do we have to petition to get an inquiry?

I think it's a federal matter since it was their party.

Ferre
15-10-2010, 01:40 PM
This is pretty wild though. No way anyone would ever receive a gag order in my part of the woods.

Staggering' conditions on accused G20 ringleader - thestar.com
(http://www.thestar.com/news/torontog20summit/article/875746--accused-g20-ringleader-faces-astonishing-breach-of-rights-lawyer-says?bn=1)

Ferre
17-10-2010, 09:49 AM
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pctec
17-10-2010, 05:51 PM
We have almost arrived... soon we will have ZERO rights left...
Damn sad state we have in 2010 :sqmad:

Paraphrasing: "You are filming in a public space, now fuck off"

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pctec
17-10-2010, 06:01 PM
I honestly had no idea that when we joined the G7 that we as a country gave up the right to lend ourselves money at no interest... 1:30 of this video...

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Ferre
18-10-2010, 03:13 AM
Sad how citizens who express their right to demonstrate are nowadays "officially" regarded to be "terrorists" by the same nations that wage wars all over the world to bring invaded countries "democracy", which includes the right to demonstrate.

pctec
18-10-2010, 07:08 AM
United We Fall - An interesting documentary on the impending joining together of the west into one... one step closer to a world government.

Rough times ahead... :sqmad:

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Strong
18-10-2010, 01:03 PM
Fallout from the war on terror, Bush and Blair's legacy. :Sad voiceless smiley:

Ferre
19-10-2010, 07:51 AM
Fallout from the war on terror, Bush and Blair's legacy. :Sad voiceless smiley:

That's a thinking mistake many people make but in fact Bush, Blair, the war on terror and the whole detain and surveillance industries that have sprouted from it are fallout from our own failure to fix the errors in our own democracies in the western world.

It is just the collateral damage that you get when corporative interests are represented by servants who are paid by the people to represent the people's interests.

The error in our system that we fail to fix is that we allow corporates to pay those servants too, directly or indirectly, and those corporates have better offers than we, the people. That failure gives us Blairs, bushes, Obama's and all the rest of the current generation of politicians.

It is that failure's fallout that gave us all this shit, and people are just too stupid to understand how simple the problem is and how simple it is to fix it.

Strong
19-10-2010, 12:32 PM
Dude, are you blaming me for this!?! :sqmad:

:sqwink:

Maybe. I was conned by Blair and his call to arms, that's for sure. And I have to admit a strong disliking to politicians spooning big business. I suspect there is something in what you are saying.

Take the right wing, Murdock controlled press that constantly snuggles up to the Conservatives in the UK as an example of an unhealthy relationship. An even better example would be Dispatches a couple of weeks ago. In that programme a labour MP admitted to being intimidated by a newspaper editor into not fully questioning the ex-news of the world editor about the mobile phone hacking of celebrities and politicians in this country. And this guy was a Select Committee member, doing his work in a Select Committee with responsibilities to investigate the matter. You should see that programme if you can, sorry no link.

I guess what I'm saying is I see evidence for what you are saying. :sqsad:

That said I don't think it wrong for business to make representations to government and moderate lobbying. But obviously this has to be above board, transparent, with curbs on how much money businesses can spend, which of course MUST be declared. Would you add anything to this list or would you prefer business to have no voice in government?

Ferre
19-10-2010, 04:24 PM
I like the way it is regulated in Holland. We have strong unions which are in fact a lobby for the people who work and produce the money governments put taxes on, at the other hand employers have a union too and this union has the same lobby rights as the labour unions, no more and no less and all above the table.

Corporate funding of political parties or politicians is illegal, as simple as that. Politicians/parties have to get their funding via their members in a transparent system, and no political party is allowed more tv/radio time than any other party. - That's the law.

Parties also receive government subsidies, according to the amounts of seats they hold in parliament and for campaigning budgets there are legally set limits which can not be surpassed, that too is regulated.

So we don't have that crazy campaigning idiocy going on like in the USA where politics is reduced to the level of second hand car sales commercials.

Halo
20-10-2010, 12:14 AM
... An even better example would be Dispatches a couple of weeks ago. In that programme a labour MP admitted to being intimidated by a newspaper editor into not fully questioning the ex-news of the world editor about the mobile phone hacking of celebrities and politicians in this country. And this guy was a Select Committee member, doing his work in a Select Committee with responsibilities to investigate the matter. You should see that programme if you can, sorry no link.

Would that be this one?
Tabloids, Tories and Telephone Hacking
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/dispatches/episode-guide/series-58/episode-3

Strong
21-10-2010, 12:39 PM
Thanks Halo, that would definitely be the one!

Halo
05-01-2011, 11:18 PM
Naomi Klein (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naomi_Klein) is pissed off.
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I've not taken a huge interest in politics, but the I watched a film (http://www.lovefilm.com/film/Shock-Doctrine/150520/) tonight based on Klein's book Shock doctrine (http://www.naomiklein.org/shock-doctrine/the-book). Incredible when given a summary like that, who the terrorists are isn't really so clear anymore.


Here she is giving another talk:
ftpmedia's Camera [Recorded Thu Nov 11 21:20:02 EST 2010] on www.rabble.ca - live streaming video powered by Livestream (http://www.livestream.com/rabbletv/video?clipId=flv_2f712554-31fd-4a34-a381-e99d67ffbd32)

Halo
16-06-2011, 08:32 AM
Keep it classy, Vancouver.
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Police baiting or sportfan thuggery?

Halo
20-07-2011, 03:27 AM
My goodness, that 5 metre rule did not exist, well fancy that.

:3shocked::3rolleyes:
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